On Daniel and zats and Teal'c and Hammond and general SQUEE! Within the Serpent's Grasp

[fignewton]

Because aurora_novarum would be disappointed if I didn't do this... :)

This week, in redial_the_gate, we finish Season One with the cliffhanger: Within the Serpent's Grasp.

Such an utterly fantastic episode! Off to save the world and seeing Skaara and discovering the zats! ("Zatnikatels." "Let's call them zat guns." And later, in S3: "They are intar." "What's that short for?" "Intar.") SG-1 in their cool black outfits (ninjas, hee!) and headgear! Daniel shooting two pistols at once, and being on target! Jack getting through to Skaara, and Skaara managing to influence Klorel! SGC looking after their own and Hammond going all general! Sam bringing up all the objections and then throwing them all away to go with her team!

Love it.

On Hammond.

Hammond is just incredible here. He's tried so hard to keep the SGC going, to the lengths of being thrown out of Kinsey's office for persistence. The conversation with Ferretti (who, I think, we sadly never see again). His "official orders" to SG-2 and the quietly added, "Bring them home." And his stoic acceptance of what's happening: "Guess Doctor Jackson is lucky.... This is Major General Hammond. Let me speak to the President." (Red phone bonus!)

While I was watching this, I was thinking back (or forward, heh) to 1969. When we did COTG some five months ago, we discussed how much of Hammond's decisions were framed by his experiences as a lieutenant back in '69 when he met SG-1. Now, though, Hammond doesn't have as much to go on as he did back then. All he knows is that he hasn't yet written that note, but SG-1 is already in existence. How much is he depending on that past/future here? Does he believe the attack won't succeed, because SG-1 still hasn't gone back in time yet? Or has he read enough of Sam's research to know that there's no guarantee that the events of 1969 will actually take place? Does Daniel's experiences with an alternate reality cast even more doubt in Hammond's mind, that maybe the SG-1 he met were actually from an alternate reality in the first place?

On the other hand, it makes Hammond's actions in Into the Fire even more amazing - it's the first time he's operating without even the vaguest assurances of a possible future, and he still goes all out for SG-1.

Really, Hammond rocks. That sums it all up. :)

On Daniel.

All those fanfic writers that automatically assume that pacifist Daniel is always placed in the middle of SG-1's formation for protection must not have watched this ep very closely. Half the time, as they sneak through the ship, Daniel is on their six. When Sam suggests they plant C4 on the death gliders, and she's thinking out loud, it's Daniel who finishes the statement: "...if we blow up one, we'll probably start a chain reaction." Sam looks at him sideways for a moment, then slowly says, "Right." Surprise that Daniel knows enough chemistry/physics to make that conclusion? Startlement that Daniel is being so cold-blooded about the suicidal mission? Take your pick. And later, after Teal'c and Jack are captured, it's Daniel who argues that succesfully blowing up the ship has to come before rescue. Sam has to offer a compromise to get him to agree to go after them.

What's with the absence of glasses, though? He considers pulling them out at one point, but doesn't. Afraid of reflection from the lenses? Going into a commando raid half-blind doesn't make much sense. Shooting two-handed and squinting for the win!

What interests me is Daniel's initial appeal at the start of the episode: "By the time I left, Sara was dead. Carter, your whole family was dead..." I can read that two different ways, each one intriguing on its own. Either General Jack and Doctor Carter did talk to Daniel off-screen, so that he was able to learn those details. This would support the suggestion that Daniel did enough investigating and research in the alternate reality to come to a reasonable conclusion that his own reality was equally at risk. Conversely, Daniel didn't actually have that information, but he shamelessly invented/extrapolated it to add pressure to Jack and Sam. I really can see Daniel doing that, actually. And it further suggets that Daniel and Jack, and Daniel and Sam, have had a lot of personal conversations - Daniel knows that Jack still cares about Sara, and that Sam has a family to lose.

I think the writers misstepped by having Jack so intense about Skaara without having Daniel equally as worried/concerned. Yes, Skaara and Jack bonded, and Skaara is, to Jack, the child he managed to save when he couldn't save Charlie. But Daniel is Skaara's good brother, to use Abydon nomenclature. They had a year together. Whether or not Daniel really did Skaara how to make moonshine (and get drunk), we know they were close, simply from the scenes in COTG - both those on Abydos and on Chulak. Yet except for Skaara screaming, "Sha'uri! Danyel!" when he first gets zatted, there's nothing. We do see Daniel reacting to Skaara, but Skaara for Daniel? Nada. The horror of watching Skaara nearly kill Daniel is exponentially greater when their own emotional bond is factored into the equation, but we have to fill it in ourselves, and that's the waste of a golden opportunity.

As a little aside: Sam and Daniel, ninja commandos! They are just so cute together. Yay!

On Teal'c.

It's interesting to see how little Teal'c knows, here in this first season. How long was he First Prime, if he's only qualified to fly death gliders? How much have the Goa'uld changed and modified their technology in the wake of Ra's death and the Tau'ri's resurgence in the galaxy? I think it was redbyrd_sgfic who first suggested that Ra had been hoarding a lot of the best technology for himself, and in the wake of Ra's death, the Goa'uld were able to scavenge a lot of goodies and suddenly upgrade their own fleets. That would fit nicely here - with Teal'c suggesting that the ship can only fly ten times the speed of light, for example, and his general ignorance of many of the workings on the ship. (C'mon, he can't even find the door?)

Interesting that Apophis didn't know how Cronus killed Teal'c's father (and how Tanith will later kill Shau'nac - he says that removing Junior is the most painful death, not killing the symbiote within the pouch. But where did the priests come from, with the seriously wicked-looking knife? Was there an alcove just outside the Gateroom, with priests waiting there to kill random Jaffa?

On zats and ribbon devices.

I've floated this theory before, but I think it's time to give it status as part of my personal canon: if a person is getting his mind fried by the ribbon device, and someone zats the Goa'uld that's doing the ribboning, the zat blast will travel along the energy stream of the ribbon device and prove fatal to the ribboning victim. As proof, I offer the following screen caps. My apologies for not being very good at this.

Here is Teal'c in Within the Serpent's Grasp:



"O'Neill! You must take action!" Panicky Teal'c here, knowing that Daniel will be dead within seconds. He's aiming a zat when he shouts at Jack, yet he doesn't fire himself. Why?

And here is Teal'c again, in Forever in a Day, in two separate images. The first is just as Jack orders Teal'c to follow Daniel, who has gone to confront Amaunet. The staff weapon blocks it slightly, but you can definitely see the zat strapped to his leg. The scenes in the tent were too dark for me to find a decent screencap, but here is Teal'c just as he fires the fatal blast. Note, again, the zat clearly strapped to his leg.

                               


So, Teal'c didn't dare to stop Skaara in Within the Serpent's Grasp, and he used his staff weapon instead of the zat to stop Amaunet from killing Daniel in Forever in a Day, even though he would have given anything to avoid having to kill Sha're. In both cases, the zat was available, but Teal'c didn't use it. I maintain that Teal'c didn't use the zat because he knew that in both cases, it would have been fatal to Daniel: somehow, a zat blast in conjunction with a ribboning is absolutely deadly.

"Anyway, I'm sorry, but that just happens to be how I feel about it. What do you think?"

Aurora will be doing the offical recap at redial_the_gate tomorrow, and then we go on season hiatus until the first week of January, when we start Season Two. But the comm will definitely keep busy in the interim! Why not wander over there and check it out for yourself? :)

Comments

[abyssinia4077.livejournal.com]

Hammond is just incredible here. He's tried so hard to keep the SGC going, to the lengths of being thrown out of Kinsey's office for persistence.

I know! I always wonder, when Jack charges in so insistent, if he really things Hammond is just taking this sitting down. Because, I know it's early, but I think even that early Jack knows better than that.

What's with the absence of glasses, though? He considers pulling them out at one point, but doesn't. Afraid of reflection from the lenses? Going into a commando raid half-blind doesn't make much sense.

And this drives me NUTS every single time I watch this episode. It makes NO sense at all.

And it further suggets that Daniel and Jack, and Daniel and Sam, have had a lot of personal conversations - Daniel knows that Jack still cares about Sara, and that Sam has a family to lose.

But look at "Cold Lazarus." I think that episode, without a doubt, showed the entire team that Jack still cares about Sara. And we also hear Sam admit to being an aunt, so having family. And considering what he did see in the AU - how many cities were taken out - it's a pretty safe extrapolation that their family members had died, I think. I mean, of all the logic leaps he made about that AU, that seems the most likely. I'm betting it's the second - that he knows they're probably dead and it's safe to say so, and it's not like they'll go back to check.

Good point about the relationship between Daniel and Skaara. I guess they wanted to pull Jack's heartstrings more this episode or something - but you'd think they should care more.

Sam and Daniel, ninja commandos! They are just so cute together. Yay!

YES :)

Point about Teal'c - it does seem strange how little he knows. And yay for your ribboning "proof." I'm not sure how much sense it makes, but it's certainly the best handwave to a poor plot occurrence.

[nomadicwriter]

That seems reasonable to me. Although I'm not sure it's necessarily the zat and the ribboning combining, just the fact that the hand-device has formed a connection between them so they'll both get zatted. Because I'd be quite amazed if a single zat blast could reliably put down a Goa'uld. (We'll ignore that it worked in Dominion, because hey, said Goa'uld had just changed hosts and was presumably weaker than usual. I specialise in fanwanks for these occasions.)

Even on humans and Jaffa who get zatted fairly regularly zat blasts seem to have a plot convenient varying effect - sometimes the victim's unconscious for a fair chunk of time, sometimes they're only down for about ten seconds. So if you zat a Goa'uld and an ordinary human together, odds are you've knocked the human out for several minutes while the Goa'uld's only going to spasm a bit and recover. Which means you've basically wasted your shot and helpfully knocked the Goa'uld's victim out for them. Not so smart.

[aelfgyfu_mead]

Yes, Daniel's lack of glasses makes no sense; I can only think they were giving Michael Shanks fits, and if he leaves them off for one take or scene, he has to leave them off for all. MS never really behaves like someone who wears glasses; I think he's a really good actor, but all the times he gets his glasses knocked off, he doesn't do the instinctive thing that all glasses-wearers I know do: try to get the glasses back right away (which isn't always easy, because it's hard to find your glasses while you aren't wearing them!).

Hammond is great; I think Jack is just venting his frustration with Hammond because Hammond's the most immediate target. Jack should indeed know better, but he's beyond upset.

I can actually see Daniel trying to locate not only his alternate self but the families of his teammates as ammunition for later arguments. It would, however, also be reasonable simply to conclude that they must be dead.

I totally buy your explanation of why one can't zat someone who is using a ribbon device. It makes sense: if you hit two people with a zat, they both take the force of it, and a ribbon device sends power.

I love how the team goes along with Daniel, even though I don't think Jack is fully convinced until they're on the mothership.

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Jack and Hammond... I think that Jack still expects Hammond to remain conventional. He hasn't quite worked out Hammond's amazing talent for working within the constraints of convention, as we see him do in The Fifth Man.

I see what you mean re Cold Lazarus, but two things: first, Daniel wasn't there when Sam babbled to Jack about Mark and the kids in the locker room, yet he knows about her family. Second, they were a bit distracted in the hospital. :)

I personally think that Daniel was hitting hard, and below the belt, for the sole reason of jolting them into action. So yes, extrapolation - but at the same time, he must have been pretty sure of his target to play those cards. (And I'm mixing my metaphors horribly, aren't I?)

Daniel and Skaara - the writers seem to make it Daniel looking for Sha're, and Jack looking for Skaara. And I just don't buy it. Daniel would be just as frantic to find his little good brother as he is to find his wife. And while Jack doesn't have the emotional connection with Sha're himself, he does have the emotional connection with Daniel and Skaara and... yeah.

Handwaving is all about fixing bad plot lines! :)

[nomadicwriter]

What's with the absence of glasses, though? He considers pulling them out at one point, but doesn't. Afraid of reflection from the lenses? Going into a commando raid half-blind doesn't make much sense.

And this drives me NUTS every single time I watch this episode. It makes NO sense at all.

Maybe he put contacts in specially for the commando raid, and then forgot about them and almost put his glasses on over them? (God knows I have from time to time thought, "I really should put my glasses on for this..." and then realised I was already wearing them.)

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Have I told you lately how much I love your icons? :)

I can buy that it's just the connection, with the added caveat that an already weakened individual might very well be killed with a single zat blast. Which... kinda translates back into what I suggested in the first place, I think.

I think it would be a lot of fun to go through the series and try and handwave every time the zat only dazes/knocks down instead of actually putting someone out. I'm not saying it's actually possible, mind, but it would be fun to try. :) Let's see, now: Daniel in ITLOD only gets knocked down because the blast took down two individuals, not one! And same thing in Lockdown when Teal'c shot him again, plus Anubis might have somehow lessened the effect. And in Seth, people weren't knocked out because the charge was dissipated in negating the nishta! And, um, Jack and Daniel could march into a crowd of people and fire four shots off at once without risking accidentally hitting someone twice because... er. I think I need some help here. ;)

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

MS never really behaves like someone who wears glasses

Yes, that's true. And Daniel's glasses are part of my next canon vs fanon, and do you how insane it is to try and make any sense out of it? :) I noticed it most in TBFTGOG, when he gets up and unerringly picks up his glasses. There have been times when I've had to call my kids to come and help me find my glasses when I've knocked them off the night table!

Heh for Jack ranting. At least it's a polite rant. :)

I like that Daniel's argument can be interpreted so many different ways. It does all lead to the same conclusion: that Daniel can be a master of manipulation when he wants to be! And yay for teamy goodness, going along and working TOGETHER.

if you hit two people with a zat, they both take the force of it, and a ribbon device sends power.

Yeah, I think that's what it comes down to, really: the zat blast will surge along the channelled power, and zat+ribbon=dead.

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

And yet he's wearing his glasses in Serpent's Lair, when he's trying to use two M5s instead of two Berrettas. He lost his contacts when they got flash grenaded? Bigger guns need better eyesight?

...Yeah. I got nothin'.

[aurora-novarum.livejournal.com]

I figure the electrical connection of the zat blast coupled with the energy of the ribbon device could overload and just make ribbon victim...dead.

(And by the way, way to pre-answer one of my discussion questions, fig). :-)

[nomadicwriter]

I noticed it most in TBFTGOG, when he gets up and unerringly picks up his glasses. There have been times when I've had to call my kids to come and help me find my glasses when I've knocked them off the night table!

The whole glasses/no glasses thing doesn't bother me as much as it seems to other people. I'm short-sighted and I wear my glasses all the time, but I can still function 98% fine without them. Detail gets increasingly blurry with distance, but I can still locate things perfectly and read a book or a computer screen. And I could easily shoot somebody at any distance (well - if, you know, I could actually do that with glasses on in the first place). Only thing I really have trouble with sans glasses is recognising faces at a distance or reading signposts/notices on walls.

So I really don't find it at all odd that Daniel functions okay without glasses. (Hell, for all we know he has a very mild prescription. Is there really any canon evidence that his eyesight is particularly bad?) What is messed up is the whole decision-making process behind when he chooses to wear them vs. when he doesn't. For instance, as you say: the whole commando raid thing? Probably a good time to go better safe than sorry. And they clearly never sat down and figured out whether he was meant to be long or short-sighted.

(Reposted because it somehow ended up in the wrong place, dammit.)

[aurora-novarum.livejournal.com]

And Daniel's glasses are part of my next canon vs fanon

YAY!!!!

A director friend pointed out to me that MS often uses Daniel's glasses for dramatic impact--taking them off for emotional moments, what have you.

My fanwank is he kept them off earlier because of the nightvision goggles thing, and his vision isn't quite so bad to need them. After he got shock-grenaded (and ribboned), he figured he could use them.

[aurora-novarum.livejournal.com]

You just couldn't wait twenty-four hours, could you. ;-) Hee hee hee.

I love this episode so-so much. It and the sequel are amongst my most favoritist bestest SG-1 episodes EVAR.

I too love how they all (including Daniel) take turns in guarding formation, and Sam GIVES Daniel her spare sidearm while she uses the grenade and rifle. Two gun Daniel and kickass Sam! Whee!

I'm just giddy you're FINALLY doing the glasses canon v fanon. Heh.

[redbyrd-sgfic.livejournal.com]

Is there really any canon evidence that his eyesight is particularly bad?

The only one I can think of is the bit in FIAD when he wakes up in the infirmary (which *is* in the dream, it must be said), and you get a Daniel's eye view of blurriness until Janet gives him his glasses.

The problem of course is that it's *camera* fuzziness, without the variation in focus you get with actual nearsightedness. So I figure part of that has to be the just-waking-up-from-being-ribboned effect, and the rest is inaccuracy in the dream.

I'm with nomadicwriter, his vision can't really be that bad. And may well be something like mild astigmatism instead of long or short-sightedness.

[kalquessa.livejournal.com]

I heart tactical!Team. I think the black BDUs and watch caps should be their default uniform. Only that would rob us of the trademarked Daniel Boonie, which would be a loss. So maybe they should just alternate and wear the olive drab recon-wear one day and the tactical ninja-gear the next.

Also, General Babyfacehead is equal to RAWK!

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

I figure the electrical connection of the zat blast coupled with the energy of the ribbon device could overload and just make ribbon victim...dead.

Yep, that's exactly what I was thinking.

As for your discussion question - hey, I've been talking about the zat/ribbon thing for ages! Can't blame me. :)

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

The glasses thing doesn't bother me so much as I can't seem to make sense out of it. :)

Maybe it's because I am so very near-sighted that without lenses/glasses, anything more than a few feet away becomes a blur. Daniel does put his glasses back on in TBFTGOG when he sits down at a computer. But you're right that there's no canon evidence of how strong his prescription might be.

And I could easily shoot somebody at any distance (well - if, you know, I could actually do that with glasses on in the first place).

LOL! Yes, that little detail might help. And another nyeah nyeah at the people who insist that Daniel is lousy with weapons!

the whole commando raid thing? Probably a good time to go better safe than sorry.

Yes, exactly. I don't mind handwaving a low prescription, but when you're trying to save the world, Daniel, it helps if you can see while you're doing it!

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Actually, we get a bit of blurry vision in Solitudes also - but, like with FIAD, it's post-concussion awakening. I do like the camera effect, though.

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Heh. I use my glasses for dramatic impact, too - my girls just commented about the way I look over my glasses at them when I think they've said something silly. And I really do need them!

Don't get TOO excited about the canon vs fanon glasses thing, sorry - it's more about how often he loses/breaks them than about his prescription!

he kept them off earlier because of the nightvision goggles thing, and his vision isn't quite so bad to need them. After he got shock-grenaded (and ribboned), he figured he could use them.

Ooh, very nice handwave! ::nods:: I'll take that one.

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

These two eps are right after Fifth Race on my "show this to someone if you want to them get them hooked on Stargate" list. :)

And of course I couldn't wait 24 hours! Honestly, did you expect me to? ;)

And LOL, yes, I liked how Sam handed Daniel the spare sidearm. I don't think she expected him to use them both at once, though!

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

B-b-but what about the BANDANA?

SG-1! With ninjas!

And Hammond. Whee!

[kalquessa.livejournal.com]

Oh, well, they make tactical black bandannas, I'm sure. *grin*

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Oh, in that case, problem solved! :)

[iamrosalita.livejournal.com]

I long ago gave up trying to figure out Daniel and his glasses.

And I swear I am 12 because after all these years, I still laugh at how penis-like the zats are. I know the props department designed that way on purpose!

[aurora-novarum.livejournal.com]

I know! I've been looking forward to that one!

Oh the nearsighted/farsighted thing would drive you nuts because they do both in canon.

I say he's nearsighted and ignore the other. :-)

[aurora-novarum.livejournal.com]

See, this is why you should pay attention to some of Season Nine. There IS a black bandanna in evidence.

Even though I'm a boonie girl, myself (hee, as is shown in your stick Daniel! You have a boonie! Boonies rule!

[aurora-novarum.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I've always had that same theory myself. I didn't realize it was a question until I came to fandom.

[abyssinia4077.livejournal.com]

True. Hammond is really good at getting done what needs doing from within the rules set down and Jack is really good at working outside the rules and managing not to get in trouble for it (wonder how much that says about their military backstories)

I see what you mean re Cold Lazarus, but two things: first, Daniel wasn't there when Sam babbled to Jack about Mark and the kids in the locker room, yet he knows about her family. Second, they were a bit distracted in the hospital. :)

Oh, point, for some reason...oh, yes, because Daniel walks in AFTER and tells Sam Charlie is dead. I wouldn't be surprised if Sam had mentioned her nieces? nephews? by then at some point - maybe going to visit them for a weekend (I don't think canon can decide how estranged Sam was/is from Mark). And, yeah, they were distracted in the hospital, but Jack's actions in general (jumping up for the phone) imply he very much still cares about Sara.

It's true - Jack and Daniel should BOTH care about both Sha're and Skaara. I guess the show didn't think viewers could handle anything that emotionally complicated? :)

[abyssinia4077.livejournal.com]

Except, as Fig pointed out, he has glasses later in part two.
And contacts...if so, wouldn't we see them more often (because the one and only time we see them is when he goes undercover in Summit and they make a point of showing him put them in).

I mean, I usually handwave that his eyesight isn't very bad - possibly only an astigmatism so he just likes to see the world clearly - and sometimes I'm pretty sure he's just far-sighted (only, really, they just aren't consistent). *sigh*
I mean, personally, I own a pair of glasses I only need if I'm sitting in the back of a large lecture hall, so I can't really identify too much with what it's like to really need them...but, just, you need to see to shoot the JAffa!

[abyssinia4077.livejournal.com]

Goa'uld flash grenades dissolve contacts.

obviously.

*nods*

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

(wonder how much that says about their military backstories)

It says YOOHOO, REDBYRD! HERE'S ANOTHER PLOTBUNNY FOR YOU!!! :)

Oh, I wasn't trying to imply that Sam and Jack are hiding the fact that they care for their families. But I do think it suggests that Daniel knows than better than they might realize.

And yes, the writers don't seem to have the most complimentary views towards the fans' intelligence. :p

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Woot! And we've got a winner!

(and he brought the glasses along because, um... because! Yeah, that'll do it.)

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Can you give me an example of when he acts far-sighted?

(Maybe in TBFTGOG he took off his glasses so much because the blurred faces made it easier to recognize these weren't his actual friends?)

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

That's the one with Orlin and zapping the Prior by the super-Jaffa guys, right?

...You can see how well I know my S9-10 canon. :)

(I really only remember it because there's a really cute Daniel-in-bandana moment where he gives this smug nod - Yup!)

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Daniel and his glasses are just... one of those things. OTOH, I'm very glad he wears them, because I really like his face much better with specs than without.

[aurora-novarum.livejournal.com]

That's hard because I tend to blank out those moments for my personal canon sanity. They're more moments when he puts his glasses on to read a computer monitor or book quite close to him. I wish I could recall the specific examples, fig, but I'm blanking at the moment

(Hey, maybe his vision's gotten worse--like mine--and he needs his glasses to see the monitor too! I dunno).

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Speaking as someone who is incredibly near-sighted, I most definitely ALWAYS need my glasses to read or look at a computer monitor. When he takes off his glasses in MiaB out of exhaustion, frex, and then puts them back on to focus on the computer screen, I found that perfectly for someone who is near-sighted.

[quarryquest.livejournal.com]

Sorry to barge in on this (newbie learning Stargate as we go along ) but is there any community on LJ for posting SG1 Meta? I was just wondering as having watched quite a bit now I have things I want to say, and have a place for people to respond to what I am saying.

Thought you might be able to help.

Oh and ... and really enjoying your posts in this community BTW. Glad to see people with this sort of sense of humour.

[quarryquest.livejournal.com]

Yeah ... well ... quite. When I first saw one I went 'no way!' and I did wonder if they were supposed to be like a striking cobra or something, but you are right. Deeefintely phallic (and its scary seeing Daniel pointing one of those things at Jack).

[maevebran.livejournal.com]

MS never really behaves like someone who wears glasses; I think he's a really good actor, but all the times he gets his glasses knocked off, he doesn't do the instinctive thing that all glasses-wearers I know do: try to get the glasses back right away (which isn't always easy, because it's hard to find your glasses while you aren't wearing them!).

I don't have very bad eyesight but if some one is about 15 to 20 feet away their face becomes and impressionistic blob but I could see if they were wearing Jaffa armor or not.

But the reason I have a hard time with Daniel and his glasses is that he never cleans them. Also he rarely adjusts the way they sit on his face. My glasses fit but occaisionally they do slide down and have to be pushed back up but Daniel never does this. I totally agree that if he lost his glasses and he needed them to be able to see the rest of SG1 across that small padded cell in Legacy clearly then he should be looking for them once they are lost.=)

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Actually, Daniel adjusts his glasses a lot in the early days. (Brief Candle comes to mind most vividly, as does TBFTGOG.) As for cleaning glasses... heh. I often go weeks in between cleaning my glasses. It's always a surprise to discover that no, the world isn't really full of smears and spots!

(should go clean 'em now, actually...)

I'm trying to remember, but - when Daniel sees the dead whatever-their-names-are in Legacy peering over Sam's shoulder, aren't they a lot more in focus than Sam and the others? I always thought part of the skewed vision wasn't just the lack of glasses, but also the drugs. The hallucinations would appear much more vivid, though.

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Oh, welcome to our wonderful world! :)

I have two suggestions for you:

First of all, there's sg1_debrief. You'll definitely want to get that on your flist! The newsletter is currently on hiatus until January, but you can leave a comment at this post or send an e-mail to sg1debrief @ gmail.com so that you'll be added to watch list. Once you do that, anything SG-1 related on your LJ - meta, fic, squee, what have you - that's not flocked and is posted after January 4th will automatically be linked in the newsletter. Please understand that it's not enough just to watch or friend the comm; you have to actively request, either through commenting at the post or via e-mail, to be added to the watch list.

Your second option is redial_the_gate. Starting next week, anyone can post meta on individual S1 episodes or S1 in general. Go here to sign up for that. Or, if you'd like to do something based on S2, you can sign up for that over here.

Hope that helps!

[maevebran.livejournal.com]

Yes the dead Linvris are clearer but he makes a comment about not being able to see the team clearly since his glasses were taken.=)

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Oh, yes. "They took away my glasses..." But I still think that the blurry vision was a combination of no glasses AND drugs. YMM naturally vary.