Daniel and Nero

[fignewton]

So, I'm rereading an old friend for the nth time - Black Orchids, by Rex Stout - and the murder victim's name is Harry Gould.

I blinked. And then I suddenly became convinced that Daniel and Wolfe have got to meet. Maybe Daniel ends up visiting Wolfe in his cherished house in Cairo, where they stay up half the night talking in half a dozen different languages, while Jack cheerfully matches Wolfe beer bottle for beer bottle and Archie exchanges witty remarks with Sam.  And then they're back in Manhattan for some odd reason, and Wolfe is giving Teal'c a personal tour of the orchids, because flowers are a minor obsession of Teal'c's since he never had a chance to stop and smell the roses, much less the orchids, when he was First Prime, and he's studied the subject enough to hold his own in a conversation with Wolfe. They're trying to out-"Indeed" each other, anyway. And Daniel is in ecstacy over Fritz's coffee. And Lon Cohen and Emmett Bregman go way back - Saul Rubinek, BTW, did some fantastic audiobooks for some of the Nero Wolfe mysteries - and Emmett recommended Lon to the SGC as a reporter who would actually do them justice. And Saul Panzer would help uncover some wicked NID plot and help Jack stop Maybourne before he gets them into trouble.

I can't be the only SG-1 fan out there who loves Nero Wolfe mysteries, now can I?

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Nero and not burning Rome

[randomfreshink.livejournal.com]

Oh, god--there's got to be a time slip here. They could meet up in the now in Cario, with Wolfe retired. And maybe it's the Maltese Falcon--the real one--turns out it's Goa'uld technology left over from Horus. And it's been sitting around the whole time, but this H. Gould was really Horus--only the Goa'uld left the body and got into someone else. And the new one shows up--with the NID guys of course--and that's when things go really bad and they do end up in old Manhattan (pre-war with coctails and people dress up in the evenings). And here we go again--are they here to actually commit the murder--to kill Harry (the past one, not Maybourne who's now with them).

Just too warped and wonderful!

Re: Nero and not burning Rome

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Bwah! "I'm Horus, but my friends call me Harry."

Actually, one of the most entertaining aspects about Wolfe is that he and Archie never age. Despite covering a span of four decades, the only real changes you see in behavior is the amount of money being charged by Wolfe and earned by Saul, and references to women's hats as the height of fashion. So the timeslip thing isn't necessary, unless you actually want the additional confusion. Which would probably only make things more fun. :)

Re: Nero and not burning Rome

[randomfreshink.livejournal.com]

It's my own preference--there's something wonderful about mysteries set in the 30's and 40's -- pre and post war. I just love that era, partly because a mystery then was more about being smart to solve it (not so much on DNA and science). And it's the place I always think of Wolfe and Archie (yes, even though they don't age). A&E did a charming adptation of them with Timothy Hutton as Archie and Maury Chaykin as Wolfe, and they kept the 40's setting. Besides, guys dressed up in suits (wouldn't Teal'c just love a good fedora), and Sam having to make do with crystal radio sets and vaccume tubes--it'd be just too fun!

Re: Nero and not burning Rome

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

wouldn't Teal'c just love a good fedora

::sputters all over keyboard::

In-deed, to quote Teal'c in 200. :) :)

Never saw the adaptation you mentioned - I've only ever read the books, and listened to them as audiobooks. But you're right that the charm of Sam wrestling with older technology would be utterly irresistable!

But really, Wolfe and Daniel? They would get along so well. And Daniel would look so lovely in the red leather chair. :)

Re: Nero and not burning Rome

[randomfreshink.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah...and long, long dicussions (which sound a lot like arguments to anyone on the outside) on just about anything....

There's some production stills from the A&E series, and you may recognize a familiar face here: http://www.nerowolfe.org/htm/AE/missing_minutes/missing_minutes.htm

Yet another connection-- it's destiny!

Re: Nero and not burning Rome

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Well, Archie certainly doesn't match the picture in my head, but Wolfe isn't too bad...

And that's Nerus, isn't it? Oh, good grief. Six degrees in every which direction!

Wolfe would be triply outraged by Sam: she's a woman, and she's brilliant, and she's a techno whiz. But I think Sam and Archie would get along quite well. His admiration of legs notwithstanding, Archie has always struck me as someone who appreciates intelligence and wit. Sam ought to be a major hit, if you'll pardon the pun.

I want to see Fritz and Teal'c discussing cooking. And Jack will get Fritz to make his omelet with the super secret ingredient of beer. :) And Daniel would get on splendidly with Saul, too.

Time travel or no, I want this crossover!

[vickyocean.livejournal.com]

I come by way of sg1_debrief

Saul Rubinek also played Lon Cohen in the A&E series. Seeing 'Nero Wolfe' as Nerus was a highlight of Season 9 for me. I really enjoyed the series. It's a shame it was canceled. I still they'd gotten around to an adaptation of Some Buried Caesar.

I can certainly imagine Jack sitting in a poker game with Archie, Lon, Orrie and Saul. Teal'c and/or Jonas I could see hanging out with Fritz in the kitchen. I think Sam and Archie would be rather amused by each other.

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Isn't sg1_debrief just fantastic? Glad you found me. :)

Saul Rubinek also played Lon Cohen in the A&E series.

::giggles hysterically::

It's fated, I tell you!

I must find some way to watch these A&E episodes somehow. They sound like they're really fun. Did Lily ever show up on the show, if they never did Some Buried Caesar?

But, yes! I can easily see Sam and Archie amusing each other tremendously.
And if Jonas gets into Fritz's kitchen and starts eating everything in sight, Fritz will chase him out with a spatula. :)

[vickyocean.livejournal.com]

I know Lily showed up a couple of times. I distinctly remember seeing her dancing with Archie at the Flamingo. The biggest part she had was Death of a Doxy. Unlike the other episodes it was set in the 60s. Archie was as dapper as ever, but Lily's penthouse was all 60s modern. It was rather fun to look at.

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Oh, thank you for the icon and that glimpse of Lily! My mental picture of her doesn't have long hair, but I suppose it fit the era of that specific episode. And I would dearly love to see the Flamingo! I must get a glimpse of the show one of these days. And mentally slot Daniel in there somewhere. :)

Daniel and Nero

[(Anonymous)]

Ha--I am amazed that the SG1 world I love and the Rex Stout mysteries, which I've been reading since my teen years, have collided. It's great! I actually own all of the Rex Stout books, plus one or two "about" type books, also. And there is a good, long, bio of Rex Stout, too, that I bought for my library when I was a librarian.

I prefer the books, but I used to watch the tv series back in maybe the 80's, that had Lee Horseley (sp.) as Archie. It was pretty good. And the newer one with Timothy Hutton was pretty good, too, though they never match the Archie and Nero in my own mind, of course.

I was definitely shocked in season 9 when Nero Wolfe showed up and was a Goa'uld! And a glutton, too--seemed rather incredible.

Cheers to the combining of SG1 and Nero Wolfe's worlds.
Melissa M.

Re: Daniel and Nero

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And a glutton, too--seemed rather incredible.

Well, Wolfe was never a glutton. Just really, really obsessed with good food. :)

I do love Archie, and I would love it if someone would write a Nero Wolfe/SG-1 crossover... But honestly, I'm not exactly holding by breath. It would be fun, though, wouldn't it?

Re: Daniel and Nero

[redbyrd-sgfic.livejournal.com]

(I'm prowling around old journal entries because I'm too brain-dead to work- and wondering how I missed seeing this the first time!)

Surely Wolfe was a gourmand?

Nerus was Nero? Egad! No wonder he looked familiar! I used to watch the series faithfully. And I've read several of the Nero Wolfe books over the years, though I haven't been as dedicated to them as to say, Ngaio Marsh's Roderick Alleyn mysteries.

So- Fig? How about *you* writing the Nero Wolfe/SG-1 crossover? I can't think of anyone better suited! And I'd surely read it :).

Re: Daniel and Nero

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Eeee! Someone else who even heard of Ngaio Marsh? I am in shock. :)

I thank you for the lovely compliment, but I don't think I could ever do Archie's voice justice. Maybe a corroboration with someone. Someday. First things first: the sdficathon assignment!

Re: Daniel and Nero

[redbyrd-sgfic.livejournal.com]

Eeee! Someone else who even heard of Ngaio Marsh? I am in shock. :)

Oh, I was a bibliophile long before Stargate was a twinkle in Dean Devlin's and Roland Emmerich's eyes.

In fact, in my rebellious youth, I stomped out of the public library at age 12 to complain to my mother that the new assistant librarian wouldn't let me check out Agatha Christie books because they were in the Adult section. (My mother, bless her heart, called the head librarian and she issued me an *adult card* so there wouldn't be any doubt I could read anything I wanted! ::loves librarians::)

So, I read Christie and Sherlock Holmes (actually I'm rereading Holmes at the moment- it's been years), and Ngaio Marsh and Margery Allingham and Dorothy Sayers. Um- Elizabeth George (gods, those were depressing), and PD James (color me unimpressed). I love Dick Francis. Have just discovered Michael Innes. Bill Knox/Andrew Laird and whatever his third pseudonum was. Elizabeth Peters, Ellis Peters and Barbara Michaels. Aaron Elkins. Heavens, there are dozens. I'm not really up to date except on my favorites, though.

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

If you love librarians - and really, who doesn't? - you should check out Unshelved. I personally have it delivered to my inbox on a weekly basis. :)

I suspect that all fanfic writers - at least good ones! - are major bibliophiles. The shock wasn't that you read; the shock was discovering someone else who read Marsh. She's not exactly mainstream, is she? But I love the patient creation of backstory and characters that we'll never meet again.

I don't read much new stuff of late; I'm a voracious rereader, and rarely buy a book I haven't read at least once already! I'm on my third copy of Watership Down, for instance, and I've lost count of my Tolkiens. :)

The icon is your lovely study, isn't it? Such delightfully full bookcases! Lucky you.

[redbyrd-sgfic.livejournal.com]

Cool.. I shall have to check out Unshelved in more depth!

And I was quite shocked to find out that there are fanfic writers who don't read at all. Of course it does explain some things about..er..some authors.

And yes, the icon is from my own library- that's about 2/3 of History. Mysteries occupy three similar shelves. SF and fantasy have six, plus four more freestanding bookcases...we'll be building a few more tall bookcases when the weather gets a little warmer. (We nearly asphyiated ourselves with stain and polyurethane in December, though the warm weather let us open windows for ventilation far later than we could have expected.)

Altogether, my husband and I estimate we've got about 4000 volumes in the permanent collection. There's another 300/400 in the To-Be-Read stack, which is why *I'm* trying not to buy books right now. But it doesn't actually stop me from reading new stuff from the (public) library. And my husband has a lot of books I haven't read, and vice versa. So many books, so little time!