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Sunday, April 29th, 2007 08:18 pm

 I have some basic problems with the construction of the backstory for the episode The Road Not Taken. Analyzing the clues we're given leaves us with some pretty interesting contradictions in the storyline.

Spoilers ahead for The Road Not Taken, plus the current storyline of Seasons 9-10!

So, the AU from The Road Not Taken. It’s a fascinating premise, but there seem to be some major flaws in the flow of cause and effect.

I’m sure I’m not the only person who noticed that Jack O’Neill was not only absent as Mrs. Carter, but absent, period. Given the time frame of where this universe splits off from the regular SG-1verse, it’s reasonable to speculate that when Jack saved the world from Anubis in The Lost City, they never managed to defrost him. After all, they lost the Antarctica outpost; all they salvaged was the chair “before the Russians took over.” So Jack was left behind.

What repercussions does this have for the history of the next three years, then?

Lorne mentions that Teal’c left “several years ago” – probably at that time, when it was clear that there would be no rescue of Jack. And with no rescue attempt, that would also mean that Jack’s weapon against the Replicator was never created; that there was no way to save the Asgard from being overwhelmed when the Replicators broke loose; and that RepliCarter never came into being.

So. Weir out of the SGC, and Hammond back in his place. No General Jack. Sam doesn’t get her promotion to colonel. Quite frankly, that bothers me a lot, because the clear implication is that she hadn’t earned it as much as Jack had bestowed it, which is an ugly premise on both shippy and non-shippy levels. Daniel and Sam remain on SG-1, but Teal’c goes to fight the good fight with the Jaffa.

No Citizen Joe. His visions stopped when Jack never made it back to the SGC. Hopefully, he and his wife reconciled, but the SGC never discovers the Ancient stones and their affinity for communication.

ETA: Both [profile] abyssinia4077 and [personal profile] aurora_novarum pointed out that without the need to go to Atlantis, Prometheus Unbound couldn't have happened as it did in our universe. I would add that while Vala might have still tried to hijack a Tau'ri ship for her own interests, it couldn't be the Prometheus, since it was doing Earth orbit duty as Air Force One, and that it wouldn't have been Hammond or Daniel on board, since Hammond was CO of the SGC and Daniel would not be required to employ his Ancient skills. So there's no Vala confronting Daniel to set off S9, although they might have met in other ways, and there's no reason to suggest that they couldn't have done so.

No Moebius, because without Jack and his genes, they never would have been able to handle the timeship. (I know there are other Ancient-gene people out there, but I can’t see anyone other than Jack allowing SG-1 to go on such a dangerous mission to the past in the first place.)

It’s probable that the Replicators wiped out the Goa’uld just as they did in our universe, but how were the Replicators destroyed? No Replicarter. No Ancient weapon of Jack’s devising that they can use as a basis to finetune the machine at Dakara to destroy the Replicators. Would Hammond have allowed Felger free rein to play with his computer virus? Even if that part did take place, the rest of it remains unexplained.

We know this AU discovered the Ancient cache, because we see their machine, and they refer to where they found it. Without Citizen Joe, though, they don’t know how to activate it.

Here I run into a problem. They tell Sam that Vala is imprisoned in Area 51 (which, I’m afraid, makes this AU a lot more intelligent than the folks in our SGC). Was she sent there before or after she led them to the Ancient cache? Did they zat her as soon as they met her and ransack her belongings for the tablet that Daniel deciphered? Whether or not Vala was involved, they did find the communication device… but they didn’t communicate.

So. No out-of-body trip to the Alteran galaxy. So how do the Ori discover the existence of humans in the Milky Way?

I think it was a huge mistake to make the Ori the bad guys here, because no communication with the Alteran galaxy means no Ori in the Milky Way, and no Vala means no Adria to take Daniel. (We might handwave it and say that Vala was only arrested in S10, not S9, but that’s rather doubtful, and still doesn’t explain how the Ori got to the Milky Way galaxy in the first place.)

It’s sensible to suggest that the big bad should’ve still been Anubis. With no Replicarter to snatch him, Daniel wouldn’t have died again. No Daniel to inspire Oma to get off her glowly little tentacles and do something about Anubis means that he was still around and still making trouble. Daniel could still have been gone – possibly taken by Anubis himself, who would be every bit as fascinated in Daniel-the-Descended as Adria is. Anubis could be bringing ships to attack Earth – he did it once before, after all. A lot of the contradictions would have been resolved… but then, the writers would have actually had to present the Goa’uld as a real threat, and that is apparently not allowed any longer.

Conclusion: the premise we were given in The Road Not Taken was highly intriguing, but poorly envisioned by the writers. And for some odd reason, I’m not all that surprised by that. ;)

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Sunday, April 29th, 2007 08:40 pm (UTC)
just like human form SG-1 replicators only without the insatiable need to eat everything

But that's the definition of Replicators! They want to replicate! And Sam's "anti-replicator guns" are probably Jack's, which no longer work in the Milky Way because Sam left her brain at home the day that Replicarter came to visit in Gemini. But there's no reason they wouldn't work on Replicators in another galaxy, who presumably didn't get the Replicarter upgrade... but they're not Replicators, so they shouldn't work at all.

I suppose we're supposed to think that the Ancients and Reese just happened to create things that had the same essential building blocks, and were therefore equally vulnerable? Daniel would be displeased at the claim of divergent evolution! :)
Sunday, April 29th, 2007 08:48 pm (UTC)
These replicators have the same form but different function.

They were created to be very aggressive and with a driving purpose of destroying the Wraith (something they seem completely uninterested in doing). They've also developed a hatred for their creators (who tried to destroy them) and look at the humans/Tauri like jealous siblings because the Ancients loved the humans/Tauri best and tried to destroy the replicators.
It appears their main goal is to destroy Atlantis, once the SGA team admitted Atlantis still existed. But then they randomly decided to take it over instead (no clue why - they proved they could build a much cooler flying city).

The guns are...they actually remind me of the anti-super soldier guns. They're small and black and have these blue control crystal things and shoot EM waves that destroy the cohesion between cells, but they adjust after a few shots so you have to keep changing the frequency (like Star Trek borg and phasers).

They way they're introduced in SGA I assumed they were very familiar in SG-1 canon. not so.

See...I don't think Sam let her brain at home in Gemini. I totally get why she did what she did and find the episode fascinating. But that's another story.

Exactly with the supposed to think thing. *shakes fist at TPTB*
(honestly, while the replicator storyline has created some SGA episodes I really liked, I hate them as an enemy and plot device on SGA)
Monday, April 30th, 2007 07:08 am (UTC)
I'm going to drop the Replicator discussion, because I think we're going in circles and I'm not equipped to discuss the SGA half. :) However...

I don't think Sam let her brain at home in Gemini. I totally get why she did what she did and find the episode fascinating. But that's another story.

It's a story I'd very much like to hear, though. I know Sam has her blind spots and Replicarter was a doozy of one, but that doesn't help the absence of brain. I hope you'll write this up for us one day, because I know I'd like to read it!