I am going to admit up-front that I'm going into this one with a slight anti-ep bias. As I have often implied (or stated outright), I am very much not a fan of Earth gaining large hyperspace-capable ships. There are two reasons for this: first, it largely detracts from the big stone doughnut hiding in NORAD's basement, to the point where there are large segments of S8 where the Stargate is barely even mentioned, much less featured. Second, one of the things I like most about SG-1 is that alien tech notwithstanding, the show has always very much been grounded in here and now. Yes, we get to play with naquadah reactors and back-engineered X-301s and 2s, but it's always been reasonably extrapolated (for the sci-fi definition of "reasonable," anyway) and relatively rare. But with the onset of Prometheus, it's the beginning of what I personally see as a downward spiral to a season ending that took place entirely on a ship instead of, y'know, something to do with the series' actual NAME.
So while I'll happily debate/discuss the matter with those of you who do love ships (rather than shipping, heh) in the comments, I'm warning you all to take any less-than-enthusiastic responses with a grain of naquadah.
So. Prometheus. I go into this one knowing that Earth gets its first ship (articifical gravity yet?), we meet the reporter that drives![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
aurora_novarum crazy (although I didn't mind her much myself in subsequent eps), and there's another hostage situation and annoying NID interference of some sort. As always, live-blogging of reaction without real episode discussion. Onwards!
Ooooh! Hadn't remembered that Goaulded!Conrad is part of this. Wait, wasn't that the same Goa'uld they cloned in Nightwalkers? I think it was.
Lovely sweet take on the Stargate theme music in this opener.
Sam in denim, whee!
Annoying reporter woman (I will call her that for Aurora's sake) looks much nicer with shorter windblown hair than she does in later eps. Also, sorry SG-1, but she definitely has a point.
And, hey! Bechdel test!
Reporters have "experts" to analyze things? Shyeah, right.
Also, love Sam's little smirk when she says, no, she's sure she's not going to comment. She is totally the best face to present to the public, hee! And then after the opener we see how uncertain she was about winging it like that. ::squishes her:: I agree with George - she handled a shock beautifully.
Major Davis is in this! Even if it's only this little mention. YAY! And heh, Colin Cunningham's name just flashed across the screen, so he is in on it. I sometimes wonder if I enjoyed storylines more when I didn't know about the actors to match names to characters before they showed up on screen.
PAUL! "Good evening." Oh, I do adore the guy. Also, he looks adorable with his hat.
Good line to take, since she won't care about security - risking lives.
(BTW, do all journalists swan around in limos?)
LOVE the suggestion that it's Kinsey.
Sam AND Davis in dress blues! Are we lucky or what? :D (Yeah, yeah, I know they're uncomfortable. Too bad on Sam and Paul, heh.)
I'm not sure why I'm enjoying the constant battle of stares between Sam and Donovan, but I am. Too very strong-willed women. My money is definitely on Sam. :)
I like Jonas pointing out it's a double-cross. And no, Hammond doesn't look too happy about it, does he?
"This is an insanely bad idea!" Yes, Jack, it is. :)
Why are Sam and Jonas the right choices for this? Why not Sam and Jack, or even Sam and Paul? It feels wrong presenting Dovovan and her producer with civilians in the mix. Not sure why, though.
The elevator, for some odd reason, reminds me of the opening scenes in Wargames.
If I didn't know the Prometheus was a ship, I would have no way of knowing from that dramatic pan across it. Just sayin'. Looks more like a submarine than anything else.
Wait wait wait. The Asgard helped build the ship?! Come to think of it, the design does bear a slight resemblance to Thor's Chariot that we see over Cimmeria. Ah ha. This explains things like articifical gravity, I guess, although it reinforces my problem with it - that Earth is jumpstarted, so to speak. It's one thing to back-engineer tech, as they did with the X-302; it's quite another to have it handed to them on a platter. Ergh.
"Crashed in 1978"? Huh? Is this a cover story or something real? If the latter, someone please give me the reference. Sam's exchange with Jonas does suggest it's made up, but... And now I'm wondering if they brought Jonas along with the intention of pointing out his alienness to make the story a little better.
Just. NO. I absolutely refuse to believe that the camera crew's equipment wasn't scanned or checked before they were allowed to merrily traipse on board. In fact, I'm surprised the Air Force didn't supply the equipment instead of letting them take their own stuff. But even without that... just. NO.
I like the cable on the floor in the engine room - as Sam said, they're still installing systems. Nice touch.
Love Jonas flashing his official smile at annoying reporter woman and producer. It's those dimples, hee!
Woo hoo! GO SAM. :) :)
Okay, so who are these guys? Obviously something military with the "Charlie Charlie" rather than "CC." Of course, they may just be fanfic readers; wasn't there a meme floating around that not so long ago...? ;)
I really really like that Jonas knows his limitations and does what he can - programming a full diagnostic, swiping a crystal. Although I have to admit that the full diagnostic thing reminds me of Kirk ordering some alien computer something or other to calculate pi to the last digit. Or something like that. Maybe Jonas has been watching classic Trek in his spare time.
Really really like Jonas trying to stand in front of the civilians.
I've been trying to figure out if Producer Al is in on the scam or not. He seems genuinely frightened, but the terrorists are letting him wander around. Haven't made up my mind yet.
That yellow toolbox is too prominently featured - I assume it's going to play a role. ...Yep, I was right!
Okay, so they don't want to steal the ship; they're just turning it into a massive bomb threat. And yeah, producer guy definitely seems to be in on it.
(I've seen a clip in music vids which shows the ship slowly rising while people in dress blues watch. I thought it was from this ep. Now I'm not so sure.)
Jack! Hee hee, ready to ream Davis for getting his kids into trouble. :)
"This is supposedly the most secure facility on the face of this planet!" Yes, Jack, so explain why they didn't inspect the camera crew's equipment, please.
"Did anyone bother with a background check?!" I'm enjoying this scene too much, aren't I?
What an... interesting hostage demand. Simmons (why do they want to rescue him?) and Conrad. Also, please comment below with your opinion as to which prisoner Jack is less willing to see go free: Simmons the Smarm or Conrad the Goa'uld!
Why is Sam so beautiful when she's being brilliant?
"We believe this is a rogue NID operation." No. Really?
I like the competence of Davis finding a weak point for Sam to exploit. Stupidity of letting the crew aboard notwithstanding, at least we're getting intelligence now.
"Al, why are you doing this?" "They're paying me!" "We're supposed to be friends." "...They're paying me a lot." Heh. Poor Jonas, confused by the duplicitous Tau'ri. And he's too cute to be threatening anyway.
Davis and Simmons - great scene. "Colonel, you either give me what I need and we make arrangements, or we make a U-turn and I take you right back to your box." I need fic in which Paul Davis gets decorated and recognized as he deserved.
Is there anyone who didn't know Producer Al wasn't going to die? ...Nope, didn't think so.
Teal'c in disguise, wheeeee! We haven't had a word from the big guy yet this ep. I hope he gets to be awesome.
Why in the world does Jonas have that info? I'd expected to them to go try and get Sam out of that room and try to pry it out of her. Why does he know anything at all about recalibrating the engines? It's not his specialty. There isn't even naquadriah involved. This makes no sense.
Oh, c'mon, close in on a Goa'uld's face and don't give us the eyeflash? Shame!
"We're good to go, SIR." Yeah. Military from the start. On the bright side, pausing the DVD to make this comment freezes the screen on a fabulous shot of Jack pulling his shades off, so bonus!
....Annnnd there's the clip I've seen on vids.
That is really an ugly ship, guys.
Sam struggling against gravity and wind-resistance is just fabulous.
Love Jack and Teal'c coming up with a plan, and Davis yelling after them with crucial intel.
So basically, Sam has only as much air as there is in that crawlspace? It seems pressurized, which means that the air won't escape, right?
"You're an alien too?" Hee hee hee.
I am hugely amused that Simmons sits down in the captain's chair.
Wheeeeee for Goa'uld arrogance! And Simmons rolling his eyes. I have no pity for him whatsoever, but I definitely get the impression he hears this kind of thing from Conrad a lot.
Sam is outnumbered three to one and you can see she's still trying to find a way to get the upper hand. Because she is just that awesome. ::nods firmly:: And Jack and Teal'c to the rescue, woo hoo!
Lovely shot of Davis looking all grim and angsty!
Goa'uld strength, ha. I like when the writers remember that. And of course the Goa'uld double-crossed them. Not sure who fired the shots, though, or why it took Conrad so long to try and kill Simmons. I'd call it a pity, really. :) I thought it was Jack at first and wondered why he didn't wait, but the next scene shows otherwise.
WAIT WAIT WAIT. Conrad is dead and Simmons is gone. Simmons got taken by the symbiote, yes?
Yep. Called it. And whew! Talk about ugly faces when Simmons goes for Jack.
Oh, c'mon, no spitting of "Shol'va!" at Teal'c? I am disappointed.
"I'm gonna savor this moment!" Have to say that sounds a lot more like Simmons than a Goa'uld's diction. Perhaps in this case symbiote and host are in Tok'ra-like agreement.
Neat disposal system there, Jack. Although without Teal'c braced and the violence of decompression I'm surprised that Teal'c survived it. OTOH, Teal'c's fingers closing around a handhold was awesome.
Awwww. Teal'c and Jack love! (No slash between the names, thank you.) Love Jack straightening Teal'c's lapel, and Teal'c's little half smile and gracious head-bow of acknowledgement.
Now, see, back when Maybourne was running his black op, no one knew Ancient yet outside of Daniel. This is the same kind of sloppy writing that suggests that Maybourne could translate all those pillars in the S8 ep. I hate sloppy writing. Know your own series' backstory, writers!
SG-1... Lost.... in... Spaaaaaaace!
Jack playing with doohickeys on the captain's chair. Oh, Jack. :)
"Thor! Buddy!" Awwwwww. :) :) :)
LOL at exchange re new bodies.
So, no getting home then? And I like that little riff on Replicator!music there at the end. Oh! This is leading into the human-form Replicators and Fifth, I take it? And they take annoying reporter woman and the prisoners with them to another galaxy? Thor could at least arrange a stopover back on Earth first.
Short-cut to ship tech is explained, but I still vastly prefer storylines that include the big stone doughnut in the basement. Sigh. I give this ep high marks for lots of Paul Davis and Sam being marvelous and most of the Jonas scenes being good ones, but there was way too little Teal'c and Jack (although what there was, was fantastic!) and yeah - too much shippiness. If you want to call it that. ;)
So while I'll happily debate/discuss the matter with those of you who do love ships (rather than shipping, heh) in the comments, I'm warning you all to take any less-than-enthusiastic responses with a grain of naquadah.
So. Prometheus. I go into this one knowing that Earth gets its first ship (articifical gravity yet?), we meet the reporter that drives
aurora_novarum crazy (although I didn't mind her much myself in subsequent eps), and there's another hostage situation and annoying NID interference of some sort. As always, live-blogging of reaction without real episode discussion. Onwards!Ooooh! Hadn't remembered that Goaulded!Conrad is part of this. Wait, wasn't that the same Goa'uld they cloned in Nightwalkers? I think it was.Lovely sweet take on the Stargate theme music in this opener.
Sam in denim, whee!
Annoying reporter woman (I will call her that for Aurora's sake) looks much nicer with shorter windblown hair than she does in later eps. Also, sorry SG-1, but she definitely has a point.
And, hey! Bechdel test!
Reporters have "experts" to analyze things? Shyeah, right.
Also, love Sam's little smirk when she says, no, she's sure she's not going to comment. She is totally the best face to present to the public, hee! And then after the opener we see how uncertain she was about winging it like that. ::squishes her:: I agree with George - she handled a shock beautifully.
Major Davis is in this! Even if it's only this little mention. YAY! And heh, Colin Cunningham's name just flashed across the screen, so he is in on it. I sometimes wonder if I enjoyed storylines more when I didn't know about the actors to match names to characters before they showed up on screen.
PAUL! "Good evening." Oh, I do adore the guy. Also, he looks adorable with his hat.
Good line to take, since she won't care about security - risking lives.
(BTW, do all journalists swan around in limos?)
LOVE the suggestion that it's Kinsey.
Sam AND Davis in dress blues! Are we lucky or what? :D (Yeah, yeah, I know they're uncomfortable. Too bad on Sam and Paul, heh.)
I'm not sure why I'm enjoying the constant battle of stares between Sam and Donovan, but I am. Too very strong-willed women. My money is definitely on Sam. :)
I like Jonas pointing out it's a double-cross. And no, Hammond doesn't look too happy about it, does he?
"This is an insanely bad idea!" Yes, Jack, it is. :)
Why are Sam and Jonas the right choices for this? Why not Sam and Jack, or even Sam and Paul? It feels wrong presenting Dovovan and her producer with civilians in the mix. Not sure why, though.
The elevator, for some odd reason, reminds me of the opening scenes in Wargames.
If I didn't know the Prometheus was a ship, I would have no way of knowing from that dramatic pan across it. Just sayin'. Looks more like a submarine than anything else.
Wait wait wait. The Asgard helped build the ship?! Come to think of it, the design does bear a slight resemblance to Thor's Chariot that we see over Cimmeria. Ah ha. This explains things like articifical gravity, I guess, although it reinforces my problem with it - that Earth is jumpstarted, so to speak. It's one thing to back-engineer tech, as they did with the X-302; it's quite another to have it handed to them on a platter. Ergh.
"Crashed in 1978"? Huh? Is this a cover story or something real? If the latter, someone please give me the reference. Sam's exchange with Jonas does suggest it's made up, but... And now I'm wondering if they brought Jonas along with the intention of pointing out his alienness to make the story a little better.
Just. NO. I absolutely refuse to believe that the camera crew's equipment wasn't scanned or checked before they were allowed to merrily traipse on board. In fact, I'm surprised the Air Force didn't supply the equipment instead of letting them take their own stuff. But even without that... just. NO.
I like the cable on the floor in the engine room - as Sam said, they're still installing systems. Nice touch.
Love Jonas flashing his official smile at annoying reporter woman and producer. It's those dimples, hee!
Woo hoo! GO SAM. :) :)
Okay, so who are these guys? Obviously something military with the "Charlie Charlie" rather than "CC." Of course, they may just be fanfic readers; wasn't there a meme floating around that not so long ago...? ;)
I really really like that Jonas knows his limitations and does what he can - programming a full diagnostic, swiping a crystal. Although I have to admit that the full diagnostic thing reminds me of Kirk ordering some alien computer something or other to calculate pi to the last digit. Or something like that. Maybe Jonas has been watching classic Trek in his spare time.
Really really like Jonas trying to stand in front of the civilians.
I've been trying to figure out if Producer Al is in on the scam or not. He seems genuinely frightened, but the terrorists are letting him wander around. Haven't made up my mind yet.
That yellow toolbox is too prominently featured - I assume it's going to play a role. ...Yep, I was right!
Okay, so they don't want to steal the ship; they're just turning it into a massive bomb threat. And yeah, producer guy definitely seems to be in on it.
(I've seen a clip in music vids which shows the ship slowly rising while people in dress blues watch. I thought it was from this ep. Now I'm not so sure.)
Jack! Hee hee, ready to ream Davis for getting his kids into trouble. :)
"This is supposedly the most secure facility on the face of this planet!" Yes, Jack, so explain why they didn't inspect the camera crew's equipment, please.
"Did anyone bother with a background check?!" I'm enjoying this scene too much, aren't I?
What an... interesting hostage demand. Simmons (why do they want to rescue him?) and Conrad. Also, please comment below with your opinion as to which prisoner Jack is less willing to see go free: Simmons the Smarm or Conrad the Goa'uld!
Why is Sam so beautiful when she's being brilliant?
"We believe this is a rogue NID operation." No. Really?
I like the competence of Davis finding a weak point for Sam to exploit. Stupidity of letting the crew aboard notwithstanding, at least we're getting intelligence now.
"Al, why are you doing this?" "They're paying me!" "We're supposed to be friends." "...They're paying me a lot." Heh. Poor Jonas, confused by the duplicitous Tau'ri. And he's too cute to be threatening anyway.
Davis and Simmons - great scene. "Colonel, you either give me what I need and we make arrangements, or we make a U-turn and I take you right back to your box." I need fic in which Paul Davis gets decorated and recognized as he deserved.
Is there anyone who didn't know Producer Al wasn't going to die? ...Nope, didn't think so.
Teal'c in disguise, wheeeee! We haven't had a word from the big guy yet this ep. I hope he gets to be awesome.
Why in the world does Jonas have that info? I'd expected to them to go try and get Sam out of that room and try to pry it out of her. Why does he know anything at all about recalibrating the engines? It's not his specialty. There isn't even naquadriah involved. This makes no sense.
Oh, c'mon, close in on a Goa'uld's face and don't give us the eyeflash? Shame!
"We're good to go, SIR." Yeah. Military from the start. On the bright side, pausing the DVD to make this comment freezes the screen on a fabulous shot of Jack pulling his shades off, so bonus!
....Annnnd there's the clip I've seen on vids.
That is really an ugly ship, guys.
Sam struggling against gravity and wind-resistance is just fabulous.
Love Jack and Teal'c coming up with a plan, and Davis yelling after them with crucial intel.
So basically, Sam has only as much air as there is in that crawlspace? It seems pressurized, which means that the air won't escape, right?
"You're an alien too?" Hee hee hee.
I am hugely amused that Simmons sits down in the captain's chair.
Wheeeeee for Goa'uld arrogance! And Simmons rolling his eyes. I have no pity for him whatsoever, but I definitely get the impression he hears this kind of thing from Conrad a lot.
Sam is outnumbered three to one and you can see she's still trying to find a way to get the upper hand. Because she is just that awesome. ::nods firmly:: And Jack and Teal'c to the rescue, woo hoo!
Lovely shot of Davis looking all grim and angsty!
Goa'uld strength, ha. I like when the writers remember that. And of course the Goa'uld double-crossed them. Not sure who fired the shots, though, or why it took Conrad so long to try and kill Simmons. I'd call it a pity, really. :) I thought it was Jack at first and wondered why he didn't wait, but the next scene shows otherwise.
WAIT WAIT WAIT. Conrad is dead and Simmons is gone. Simmons got taken by the symbiote, yes?
Yep. Called it. And whew! Talk about ugly faces when Simmons goes for Jack.
Oh, c'mon, no spitting of "Shol'va!" at Teal'c? I am disappointed.
"I'm gonna savor this moment!" Have to say that sounds a lot more like Simmons than a Goa'uld's diction. Perhaps in this case symbiote and host are in Tok'ra-like agreement.
Neat disposal system there, Jack. Although without Teal'c braced and the violence of decompression I'm surprised that Teal'c survived it. OTOH, Teal'c's fingers closing around a handhold was awesome.
Awwww. Teal'c and Jack love! (No slash between the names, thank you.) Love Jack straightening Teal'c's lapel, and Teal'c's little half smile and gracious head-bow of acknowledgement.
Now, see, back when Maybourne was running his black op, no one knew Ancient yet outside of Daniel. This is the same kind of sloppy writing that suggests that Maybourne could translate all those pillars in the S8 ep. I hate sloppy writing. Know your own series' backstory, writers!
SG-1... Lost.... in... Spaaaaaaace!
Jack playing with doohickeys on the captain's chair. Oh, Jack. :)
"Thor! Buddy!" Awwwwww. :) :) :)
LOL at exchange re new bodies.
So, no getting home then? And I like that little riff on Replicator!music there at the end. Oh! This is leading into the human-form Replicators and Fifth, I take it? And they take annoying reporter woman and the prisoners with them to another galaxy? Thor could at least arrange a stopover back on Earth first.
Short-cut to ship tech is explained, but I still vastly prefer storylines that include the big stone doughnut in the basement. Sigh. I give this ep high marks for lots of Paul Davis and Sam being marvelous and most of the Jonas scenes being good ones, but there was way too little Teal'c and Jack (although what there was, was fantastic!) and yeah - too much shippiness. If you want to call it that. ;)
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