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Monday, March 30th, 2009 09:54 pm
Tomorrow, [livejournal.com profile] redial_the_gate will recap The Light, with fun and games for all your angsty needs! Next week, though, is Prodigy. And I must lower my eyes in shame and confess that I have never actually... y'know... watched the episode.

Never watched Prodigy. Never watched most of S6. Never watched the two Daniel-less eps in S10. (Anyone sending a trend, here?) And never watched Avenger 2.0, either.

But, well... I'm a mod. Am I obligated to watch Prodigy for next week's Redial?

Do I owe it to myself to finally see the entire series, from beginning to end?

Or should I give in to temptation to just run away, screaming? :)

So I turn to you, my dear flist, to help me make up my mind with a poll. What do you think?


[Poll #1375007]
Tuesday, March 31st, 2009 12:12 am (UTC)
I haven't watched enough Jonas to dislike him or like him, really. But I liked the team's interaction with him in S7, and I'm angered beyond words at how he's treated in S10. So... so not much, I guess. :)
Tuesday, March 31st, 2009 05:00 am (UTC)
At how who is treated in Season 10? Are you talking about Jonas? I don't remember him in Season 10!!! Confusion.

Tuesday, March 31st, 2009 05:41 am (UTC)
That's... kinda the point.

One of the first six or so eps ends with this comment from Sam: "We've just heard from [someone or other]. Three more planets have fallen to Ori, including Langara." That's a paraphrase, but that's essentially what was said.

Langara is Kelowna.

So, Jonas' planet falls to the Ori, and not one word of concern about a former teammate. Not one word about any attempts to find Jonas, to do something for the planet, nothing. I'm not a fan of the Ori storyline by any means, and my S9-10 recs are a very small percentage, but one almost sure-fire way to get recced by me is to write a story in which the team doesn't "leave people behind" and rescues Jonas and/or the planet.

Also? There was a special produced around the time of S10 - The Mythology of Stargate, or some such - and they featured everyone who had been on SG-1 except Jonas, who wasn't even mentioned. As I said, I'm not a fan of Jonas, but that's just wrong.
Tuesday, March 31st, 2009 10:19 am (UTC)
My favourite bit of all of that (and yep, I'll hold my hand up as someone who likes Jonas a lot, as well as the rest of 'em...because I'm bound to end up using my 'geek' Jonas icon here at some point!) was that they were trotting out the whole line about 'we don't have any more storylines for Jonas'...when they just Ori-ed his planet, and we know that he's not the kind to take that sort of thing in a prostrate position. I let that amuse rather than frustrate me.

I take it that you've read beanpot's fic about the team dealing with this? Its very good indeed.
Tuesday, March 31st, 2009 02:13 pm (UTC)
Oh, yes, I've recced Beanpot's fic! And I've recced [livejournal.com profile] 6beforelunch's take on it. And [livejournal.com profile] kalquessa's Aggravated Destruction of Property is on my to-rec list, as is Beanpot's other rescue-Jonas fic: They're waiting all the same...

...Did I mention I really like fics that fix this? :)

Tuesday, March 31st, 2009 02:56 pm (UTC)
You *have* read [livejournal.com profile] niamea's Jonas S10 fic, right? Right? It's one of my favs after Bean's...

(also, man, someday I have to write the one in my head. On top of everything else I have to write)
Tuesday, March 31st, 2009 03:40 pm (UTC)
No, I hadn't read that one before.

I do need my apocafics to have at least semi-happy endings...
Tuesday, March 31st, 2009 03:57 pm (UTC)
Here: And You Can Go Home Again (http://niamaea.livejournal.com/27513.html#cutid1)

The ending isn't happy but isn't not happy, I think? Though I also wouldn't categorize it as apocafic, but YMMV...I suppose from Langara's perspective there was an element of apocalypse.
Tuesday, March 31st, 2009 05:35 pm (UTC)
Found it, read it, and yes, it hit my apocafic buttons because the Jonas I think I know has been beaten down by (the very realistic) circumstances. One of the things I like most about Jonas is, as Daniel says, "You're very up." And here Jonas is thinking that huh - someone has to be the pessimist, and it looks like it's him.

Does that make sense?
Wednesday, April 1st, 2009 12:28 am (UTC)
Huh. I hadn't realized that was why you were generally not interested in apocafic (I thought you just didn't like imagining Earth going boom).

For me I like apocafic because sometimes it lets you play with other aspects of the characters that don't come out in the normal world (and not just ship) and also the nitty-gritty bit of still going and still fighting despite everything. The finding hope in the little things.

I guess I liked the fic because of the ways SG-1 was still influencing/inspiring him years later and because he's Jonas and he doesn't give up. But I can see what you're seeing.

But it's definitely a YMMV sort of thing.
Wednesday, April 1st, 2009 06:57 am (UTC)
I don't think I realized until I put it into words why I dislike apocafic.

For example, you have a sweet little Sam and Teal'c on the beach ficlet at the end of the world, and I quite like it. And there's Ivory Gates's Till Human Voices Wake Us, which is all about Daniel not giving up and I love it to pieces. So, yeah. I think a lot of it has to do with breaking the characters I love.

I do like the idea that Jonas has learned from SG-1, and he's surviving by channeling them, so to speak. But it does nag my apocafic discomfort, I guess.
Tuesday, March 31st, 2009 06:17 pm (UTC)
I must do as well, because I've read all of those except kalquessa's, and now I'm looking forward to reading and hopefully reccing that as well. Yay, new Counterstrike-fix-tag fic! :D
Tuesday, March 31st, 2009 07:12 pm (UTC)
Quinn was in S10...? I know I dislike him, but I think I might have remembered....???
Tuesday, March 31st, 2009 07:25 pm (UTC)
Oh just read the thread above! Glad my memory is not going.